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Who Could Replace Cheney?
Jon E. Dougherty and Newsmax Staff
Thursday, July 15, 2004
There is a growing movement among Republicans that President Bush replace Dick Cheney for this November’s ticket. If he were to make such decision who could be George Bush’s running mate?


Washington sources tell NewsMax that for the moment, Bush has no plan to make the change. But the situation is fluid and during this most volatile of campaigns, that decision is not final.

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The Republican National Convention won’t take place in New York City until Aug. 30 -- the drop date to make a normal transition.
The final decision to keep or replace Cheney may come then, depending on how Bush is faring in the polls and if a change becomes a necessity.

A Bush administration adviser says though the president is extremely loyal to Cheney, he must also be loyal to “common sense and the party.”

The point, the adviser noted, is to win the election. But he also noted – and this adviser has known Dick Cheney for three decades and likes him – says the ticket today is a “dead ticket.”

Noting that vice presidents have a high likelihood of eventually becoming the nation's chief executive, Bush could undermine a VP's chances in 2008 if he did not pick a running mate this year who could run in that race.

No one believes, considering Dick Cheney’s fragile health, he would be a viable candidate in 2008. Cheney himself says he won’t run, describing his vice presidency as "my last job."

One reason weighing against a change is that the mainstream media and the Democrats have complained about Dick Cheney – and have been touting his replacement.

Indeed, Cheney's own selection as Bush's No. 2 was equally cryptic.

Originally he was tapped to help Bush find a suitable running mate for the 2000 election, but the president-to-be surprised many when he actually named Cheney to the spot.

And recently, the White House has dispelled reports Bush is considering a new veep. "Those rumors are ridiculous," spokesman Scott McClellan says.

But Republicans may have been frazzled by Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry when he selected the young, articulate John Edwards.

Bush while, in Edwards' home state of North Carolina to praise his second-in-command.

One reporter typified the mainstream media's adoration for Edwards by telling Bush the junior North Carolina senator and millionaire former trial lawyer was being described as "charming, engaging, a nimble campaigner, a populist and even sexy."

The reporter then asked, "How does he stack up against Dick Cheney?"

Bush shot back, "Dick Cheney can be president. Next?"

But suppose Cheney's polling numbers got so bad as to seriously impede Bush's chances this fall?

Or who would replace him if Cheney's health gave out?

No one name immediately jumps to mind for many Americans, but there are some possibilities worthy of mention who could help – or hurt – President Bush's chances, should Cheney have to bow out for some reason.

D'Amato Speaks


Alphonse D'Amato, a former GOP senator from New York, said a day after Kerry made his VP selection Bush should drop Cheney, and offered up a pair of choices.

His "first and foremost" choice is Secretary of State Colin Powell, because he "would help galvanize the nation and offer a truly historic opportunity for American unity and pride."

Secondly, D'Amato suggested Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., "a genuine American hero who would also help bridge the political divide in our nation and assure the president's re-election by a wide margin."

"Let me note that Vice President Cheney is a decent, honorable, and patriotic American, a man of great intellect, who has served the president and the nation with dedication," D'Amato said in a statement. "But we should make no mistake, we are a nation at war with a vicious terrorist foe, and in war hard decisions must be made."

The betting today is that George Bush keeps Dick Cheney.

But already “if” raises some interesting scenarios. NewsMax recently surveyed the field of potential Cheney replacements – and possible presidential candidates in 2008.

Here’s what we found:

George Pataki

Currently the governor of New York, George Pataki, 59, is already being considered as a potential GOP candidate in the 2008 elections.

Pataki is an ideal choice for vice president for several reasons.

Though a Reagan Republican he has a winning record in one of the most liberal states in the union. He won his third term in 2002 by nearly three-quarters of a million votes.

Pataki has also turned out to be one of the unsung heroes of Sept. 11, 2001. The attacks not only destroyed the World Trade Center towers, they devastated New York’s economy.

Mayor Giuliani offered charismatic leadership in the wake of Sept. 11 but was out of office just months later. Pataki has done the hard work in helping the state make a remarkable recovery.

Another plus: Pataki is extremely popular with Hispanic and Jewish voters – constituencies the Republicans need to win nationwide.

Rick Santorum


Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., is the third-ranking member on the GOP leadership ladder. At 46, he's young and has good conservative credentials. He is anti-abortion, has a decent record regarding border issues since the 9/11 attacks, and comes from a battleground state which Al Gore only narrowly won in 2000.

Santorum also may have done Bush a favor in stumping with the president in support of Santorum's Pennsylvania colleague, Sen. Arlen Specter, when the latter faced a formidable primary challenge from conservative Rep. Pat Toomey earlier this year.

Tom Ridge


Another Pennsylvanian, former governor of the state Tom Ridge, now the administration's Homeland Security Department director, is considered a viable VP candidate. In fact, a former Clinton administration official thinks Bush will eventually settle on Ridge.

Former Clinton Chief of Staff John Podesta, at a February speech in New York City, reportedly said Bush would choose Ridge as his second-term running mate, according to blog site SwingStateProject.com.

It is an interesting prediction. Ridge has been described often as popular in Pennsylvania when he stepped down as governor to become the new Homeland Security chief.

Also, Pennsylvania has been trending GOP in recent years, say political analysts. Adopting a popular Republican political figure may help Bush carry the state in 2004.

Finally, one of Bush's campaign strengths is his so-far-successful war on terror. Ridge, as head of the nation's largest, most prominent anti-terrorism agency, serves as a plus for Bush.

One drawback: Ridge is pro-choice; Bush is pro-life. Ridge could change his mind if "convinced" to do so, though, negating this negative.

Rudy Giuliani

There has already been some speculation that former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who gained worldwide prominence for his management of the city following the 9/11 attacks, could be tapped to replace Cheney.

While Giuliani has been praised by Republican leaders for his all out support for the President and had been touted for top jobs in a second Bush term (he was rumored to have been offered the UN ambassadorship but turned it down), it is doubtful Bush could take him and not alienate his conservative base.

Giuliani has identified closely with the liberal wing of the party and even ran on the Liberal party line in each New York for mayor while eschewing the state’s influential Conservative Party.

Condoleezza Rice

As national security advisor, Condoleezza Rice has performed her duties superlatively.

As an African-American woman with brains and talent, she could boost the re-election effort of President Bush by appealing to two voting blocs at once—women and blacks, groups not overwhelmingly supportive of Bush—and position herself well for a presidential bid in 2008.

This phenomenon has not been lost on some of the most astute political analysts. Fox News political analyst and NewsMax Magazine columnist Dick Morris thinks replacing Cheney with Rice would do insure Bush’s victory in November.

The move he says would devastate the Democrats by eroding their base and ending their race-baiting tactics, he suggested.

John McCain

Reports earlier in the election cycle claimed Kerry was attempting to woo Senate colleague, fellow Navy Vietnam veteran and former POW John McCain, R-Ariz., perhaps as a way to unite Republicans and independents disenfranchised with the Bush administration.

But McCain rebuffed the offers.

Still, whose side is McCain on?

Recently McCain has come out swinging for George Bush, a move the Bush White House welcomes and appreciates.

But he may be too much of a maverick to be trusted. Also, some top GOP'ers are questioning McCain's Republican credentials.

In May, McCain criticized fellow Republicans for seeking to cut taxes during a time of war. "I fondly remember a time when real Republicans stood for fiscal responsibility," McCain said.

Asked by reporters about McCain's remarks, House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., said: "If you want to see sacrifice, John McCain ought to visit our young men and women at Walter Reed and Bethesda (two Washington area military hospitals). ... We have to react to keep this country strong not only militarily but economically."

Colin Powell

On the surface, Colin Powell seems a good choice. He would help secure some of the elusive African-American vote for the Republicans.

He's extremely well-credentialed in military matters as a former Army general and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He has sound national security and foreign policy experience as well and could help the president smooth overseas relations with his calm and confident demeanor.

And, besides D'Amato, there are others who believe Secretary of State Colin Powell could be an instant asset to the GOP as Bush's running mate.

According to a Newsweek poll published July 11, the Dem ticket of Kerry-Edwards leads the Bush-Cheney ticket by around 6 points—51 to 45 percent.

While a number of political analysts said Kerry would most likely get a nominal boost in the polls after naming a running mate, the poll also found that a Bush-Powell ticket could defeat a Kerry-Edwards ticket 53-44 percent.

But it's not clear Powell would even accept Bush's offer. News report says he has sought to distance himself from the administration and has already signaled insiders he will leave after the November election.

Mitt Romney

As the Republican governor in the midst of perhaps the most high-profile social issue in decades, Mitt Romney of Massachusetts finds himself on the side of middle of the gay marriage controversy.

But like Pataki, he is a conservative Republican that won in a liberal state. Translated: he can win over swing voters.

Others have also speculated about a Bush-Romney ticket. "Comparatively speaking, Romney is the sun to Cheney's darkness, a politician who can deliver a punch with a smile instead of a lip-curl," The Boston Globe columnist Joan Vennochi wrote in the paper's Feb. 3, 2004 edition. "Romney is political optimism and CEO-style competence. Cheney is a poorly executed war with Iraq, the false link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11, and the US government's no-bid contracts with companies like Halliburton."

Romney may not have the experience Bush would want, but he is a player in 2008 and beyond.

Bill Owens

Already considered a potential GOP presidential candidate for 2008, Colorado Gov. Bill Owens could also help Bush in the Midwest and West, though the president is already polling well there.

Owens, however, may have a name recognition problem: Not enough Americans know who he is, and, according Dick Morris, Owens isn't likely to be able to win in 2008—at least for now. Overall, his addition doesn't add much. He'll need the next four years to define himself and become familiar with voters.



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Cheney stepping down would play into the hands of the looney left. I don't see it or recommend it. The only way it could be done and not hurt Bush would be if Cheney had a serious set back in his health, other than that the looney tunes capitalize on a late change of VP.
 

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I see a clear edge when Cheney and Edwards debate. Cheney will made Edwards look foolish.
 

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The thing about it is that any of the names except for Ridge would run circles around the 2 phoneys.
 

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True, however, why give the leftist media an around the clock infomercial on Cheney being a huge mistake and blah, blah, blah. Cheneys done a fine job. I see Bush sticking with Cheney since he roughed it out with Rummy.
 

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I hope Repubs keep Cheney - he is a huge albatross, just look at the polls - one of 'em showed Cheney's approval rating at 19 percent.

He was svcking hind t*t compared to McCain and Powell when they ran hypothetical tickets. But because Bush Admin has alienated both MCcain (2000 whisper campaign) and Powell (differences over Iraq), they're gonna have to cast elsewhere if they decide to replace Cheney.

Cheney will absolutely get murdered in debates with Edwards. It will be the grunting Uncle Fester vs. John Davidson lookalike. They may have to stop it early like in a boxing match.
 

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Rumour has it that Cheney finds a new doctor that advises him not to run again...I don't think their is much of an upside keeping him on the ticket...My personal favorite would be either Condi Rice or Rick Santorum,who i really like.
But I would like to see Condi be the first black woman pres of the US and a republican to boot and lmao at all the back peddling and racist hatful comments that the Moore-ons would make, and then then somehow justify their comments..or in other words compound the hypocraciy like they usually do.
 

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The fact that the dems want Cheney out is enough for me to what him to stay, they want Cheney replaced so they can harp on it. I don't believe the negative polls towards Cheney. As much as the left tried to convince everyone Edwards is so great it's just not true and Edwards will do basically nothing to help Kerry win.
 

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The conservatives should take a deep breathe and realize Bush is actually liberal and Cheney is more conservative, it's not time to go wobbly on Cheney.
 

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Condi Rice did not impress me at all when she spoke in front of the commision. She could have been much tougher and gotten away with it.
 

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